tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post1912272027901013780..comments2024-02-07T23:25:07.429-06:00Comments on Bell Beaker Blogger: Additional DNA - Basques, Mesetans (Update)bellbeakerbloggerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01848982163843593127noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-75144599685283670182019-08-13T08:29:15.249-05:002019-08-13T08:29:15.249-05:00Wasn't there a study that found Basque DNA is ...Wasn't there a study that found Basque DNA is related to Irish DNA? And Irish legend says the Irish people came from the Iberian Peninsula. I was just reading about the remains of a Beaker girl in Scotland, and the article mentioned Beakers are theorized to be from Spain. So I wondered if there was a connection with the Basques, since they are from the Iberian Peninsula and have connections to Ireland, right next door to Scotland. I am not well versed in genetics, but I wanted to ask someone who actually knows about this stuff if there could be a connection there between the Beakers, the Basques, and Irish ancestry. Obviously I'm speculating a lot.Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02619028030038547038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-1106030038636770912017-03-10T18:17:53.611-06:002017-03-10T18:17:53.611-06:00My understanding is that Artenacian was progressiv...My understanding is that Artenacian was progressively influenced by Beaker Culture but remaining a distinct culture despite these influences.bellbeakerbloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01848982163843593127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-24514757569624800052017-03-10T16:30:45.612-06:002017-03-10T16:30:45.612-06:00Just one question sir,
Is the Artenacian culture ...Just one question sir,<br /><br />Is the Artenacian culture part of the larger Bell Beaker culture?<br />Thank you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-13640032729799305712017-03-08T20:19:59.327-06:002017-03-08T20:19:59.327-06:00Well, it seems the lineages associated with Basque...Well, it seems the lineages associated with Basque people are too young to fit in any local scheme that makes sense, plus the researchers keep broadcasting that t's something Eastern, so I'll build off that. Although it wouldn't surprise me if different R1b stuff is lurking there in future studies.<br /><br />Probably the dominance of R1b in the Basque is a statistical consequence of being surrounded by folks dominated by R1b-M269, largely the Celtic baby-factory. If you take DF27 for example, it'd seem to have only recently achieved such frequency, which again probably has more to do with the relative population size and and statistics.<br /><br />What I believe is that case from what I've read, mostly of the Artenac, is that during the Beaker period, Beaker people co-existed in 'the next village over' from some Artenac settlements and there isn't anything to support conquest by steppe warriors. I'd bet steppe admixture in Basques was not a one time event but 4000 years of gene flow with their neighbors.bellbeakerbloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01848982163843593127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-58545546292778955222017-03-08T17:52:07.846-06:002017-03-08T17:52:07.846-06:00What do you think of the possibility that the so c...What do you think of the possibility that the so called Beaker folk who have some Beaker goods around them in Spain are not culturally Beaker people and instead obtained their pottery via trade with contemporaneous culturally Beaker people who lived nearby? <br /><br />These people could be part of the local component of a Basque ethnogenesis that had not yet merged with the Y-DNA R1b, Steppe ancestry men from somewhere else who joined with them to give rise to a mix that became Basque. <br /><br />While Bell Beaker does eventually arrive in NW Iberia, it does so rather late and by a roundabout route from Southern France, rather than directly from the earliest Bell Beaker sites in Southern Portugal.andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08172964121659914379noreply@blogger.com