tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post4582600935691969941..comments2024-02-07T23:25:07.429-06:00Comments on Bell Beaker Blogger: Lara Cassidy and Dan Bradley on the Rathlin Burialsbellbeakerbloggerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01848982163843593127noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-28717558726370798152016-03-28T18:27:08.202-05:002016-03-28T18:27:08.202-05:00An analogous process for which we have written his...An analogous process for which we have written historical evidence was the post-Roman Empire Roman Catholic evangelization of Continental Europe by Irish missionaries (sometimes the subjects were pagans, sometimes they were Arian Christians which had been popular among peoples north of the Roman empire in the Roman era).andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08172964121659914379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-66588672519813286142016-03-28T18:24:31.635-05:002016-03-28T18:24:31.635-05:00I think you are right on target. I would also ent...I think you are right on target. I would also entertain the notion that the broad similarity of Celtic languages may be due to a proto-Italic-Celtic language spreading out and transforming into similar Celtic-like languages in many places in parallel due to their encounters with a common BB substrate under similar circumstances in all places. Italic, in contrast, may have arisen from the same proto-IE language encountering a different substrate. andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08172964121659914379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-59891128489712480892016-03-28T07:08:39.669-05:002016-03-28T07:08:39.669-05:00I think what we now think of as Celtic came out of...I think what we now think of as Celtic came out of the vicinity of Bohemia in the IA due to it being the region with the best source of iron and Rathlin represents an earlier more widespread BB connected layer which might contain common pre-Celtic elements and part of which expand somewhat from the west due to tin-bronze.<br /><br />So my picture is... bunch of cousins spread around Europe, one group who happened to end up in a region with tin and copper expands from the west due to tin-bronze and later another group expands back again from the east due to iron. The surviving "Celtic" culture being the last layer rather than the earliest.<br />Greyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13398462488549380796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-13989903176268591402016-03-27T17:29:00.665-05:002016-03-27T17:29:00.665-05:00Yes it will be Both CFW books were cover to cover...Yes it will be Both CFW books were cover to cover great reading <br />Apparently genealogists looking at the Rathlin samples found that although the BA men harboured L21, etc, they were not on a branch actually ancestral to those found modern Britons and Irish; what leaves room for subsequent migrations after the BB period ?Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07166839601638241857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-26518906611540166172016-03-25T10:50:13.984-05:002016-03-25T10:50:13.984-05:00I look forward to seeing this alternative theory t...I look forward to seeing this alternative theory to see what arguments they proposebellbeakerbloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01848982163843593127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-23336585881906959552016-03-24T23:37:27.679-05:002016-03-24T23:37:27.679-05:00I agree with your perception
Celtic is a much late...I agree with your perception<br />Celtic is a much later language <br />But such common sense won't stop some running away with their imagination <br />Why & how would Celtic "come from the west" to the Alpine heartlandRobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07166839601638241857noreply@blogger.com