tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post6411594147682212021..comments2024-02-07T23:25:07.429-06:00Comments on Bell Beaker Blogger: Environmental Changes in the Balearic Islands (Burjachs et al, 2016)bellbeakerbloggerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01848982163843593127noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-20133920738391136432016-10-13T13:56:35.528-05:002016-10-13T13:56:35.528-05:00Pontic Greeks from Giresun descend from Sinope col...Pontic Greeks from Giresun descend from Sinope colonists and Sinope was colonised by Ionians from Miletus. Is interesting to note that there exist an Ionian colony known as Pityussa just like the known Greek name for Eivissa Pityuses. In Eivissa, where is found the famous bust of Demeter that have been confused with the punic Tanit for decades, is known the cult to Demeter. The bust belonging to Demeter have been analysed and is found to contains black particles of volcanic sand origin from the Etna, is thought to be made in Sicily with red clays typical of the eastern Trinacria, which was colonized by the Ionians. The Ionians could be arrived to Eivissa c.2700 YBP. This lineage could be an Ionian marker. T1a1 formed 17,400-14,600 BP, is the largest lineage downstream from T1a-M70 and became widespread across Eurasia and Africa before the modern era.<br /><br />This extremely rare subclade has been found in Ibizan (Eivissan) islanders and Pontic Greeks from Giresun. The first Y-STR haplotype belonging to this lineage appeared in the paper of Tomas et al in 2006 among a sample of Eivissan individuals but is not until August 2009 when the first T1a1-L162(xL208) individual was reportedGasparhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08803562810086047583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-28942993747339885322016-10-13T12:35:07.783-05:002016-10-13T12:35:07.783-05:00Thanks. Yes, the dates do seem rather unexpectedl...Thanks. Yes, the dates do seem rather unexpectedly recent considering humans had reached some other relatively remote islands in the Mediterranean many years earlier. But this is not the first time I've seen the fact that the last evidence for presence of extinct species is a few years before the first evidence for humans as evidence humans didn't cause the extinction. Not very reliable evidence as far as I'm concerned, especially the remark: " In the southern Pityusic Islands, observed changes in Ibiza are less pronounced and coincide with the 4.2 cal kyr BP climate event, synchronous with human colonization". Seems some are reluctant to admit humans have long been responsible for environmental change. terrythttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17327062321100035888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-82405350069374527632016-10-13T09:31:58.968-05:002016-10-13T09:31:58.968-05:00If I can get a copy of the paper I'll look for...If I can get a copy of the paper I'll look for their discussion on the topic. The first occupation evidence comes from radiocarbon dates of those materials. I'm somewhat skeptical the islands were inhabited this late just based on a lack of evidence. bellbeakerbloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01848982163843593127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-36599319021072822502016-10-12T20:59:16.572-05:002016-10-12T20:59:16.572-05:00So the authors are absolutely sure they have found...So the authors are absolutely sure they have found the evidence for the very first occupation of the islands. Amazing. Did it occur to them that humans may have been responsible for much of the resulting climate change? terrythttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17327062321100035888noreply@blogger.com