tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post3424300560866006313..comments2024-02-07T23:25:07.429-06:00Comments on Bell Beaker Blogger: Beaker and Aegean, Similarities and Differences (Rahmstorf, 2008)bellbeakerbloggerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01848982163843593127noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-5891882009944300122016-04-28T07:48:49.024-05:002016-04-28T07:48:49.024-05:00NO! - Not that long (45 pages) :-)
I promise you i...NO! - Not that long (45 pages) :-)<br />I promise you it will be worthwhile. <br />Funny enough. when I read it , there is so much I left out. If you check the structure in the blog there are several full chapters I havent even address. You remenber all I wanted was to write about horses, dogs and Grapes. <br />Specially horses. there is a true a certified "baffling horse problem" in all those regions because "strange" horse like skelletons popup as awkward outliers that they go on a spin to even undertsand... :-) <br />Maybe in a while I get the strenght to write about it. Now I think I've dried out.<br /><br />Olympus Monshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08640679631703214884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-86737310305135955342016-04-27T19:24:03.902-05:002016-04-27T19:24:03.902-05:00Long paper! Give some time to read it :)Long paper! Give some time to read it :)bellbeakerbloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01848982163843593127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-26223837870519588642016-04-27T10:54:26.153-05:002016-04-27T10:54:26.153-05:00Thanks. Its done. Just go to http://shulaveri2bell...Thanks. Its done. Just go to http://shulaveri2bellbeaker.blogs.sapo.pt/ and in LINKS there is the file to Download. Hope you enjoy it and feel free to send me a critique to Olimpusmons@gmail.com<br /><br />Or just go directly to file in here:<br /><br />http://blogs.sapo.pt/cloud/file/eb6b52b82097d41dfa0e5797a2fa7945/olympusmons/2016/From%20Shulaveri%20to%20Bell%20beaker.pdf<br /><br />Olympus Monshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08640679631703214884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-86927862336650535912016-04-27T08:54:02.905-05:002016-04-27T08:54:02.905-05:00Ok, look forward to reading it. Ok, look forward to reading it. bellbeakerbloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01848982163843593127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-64958861432034927592016-04-27T06:05:35.191-05:002016-04-27T06:05:35.191-05:00Hi Bellbeakerblogger.
I am about finish an essay a...Hi Bellbeakerblogger.<br />I am about finish an essay about how the Shulaveri-Shomu became the Bell beaker. In the next couple days will ask a favor of you, which is if you can read it and tell me you opinion on. (Very early draft can be seen here – (http://shulaveri2bellbeaker.blogs.sapo.pt/) since I just wanted a digital record of it.<br /><br />To the point of your post. After reading Rahmsorf’s paper I think the conundrum people get into is always the same. If one assumes that the bell beaker is the continuity of communities expelled from the southern Caucasus north of Van lake (Shulaveri, Aratashen ,Mugan plains, etc) and that they came through to Europe via North Africa (they were in Tell Tsaf in Israel, then Merimde in Egypt, etc.) and once in Iberia as Bell beaker kept on “running” northbound to the rest of Europe then it all makes sense and most of the bewilderment just goes away. See, they had been “running” in the previous 1 to t2 millennia.<br />(Prior) Bell beaker was a Blob of R1b in South Caucasus by 6 millennia BC, a blob of r1b in Merimde and El-omari in Egypt by 5millenia BC, a scattered populations first in the Acacus mountains by early 4th millennia and as early south Iberia chalcolithic in late 4th millennia , as bell Beaker in the rest of Europe in the 3r millennia BC , then as Unetice and related, Proto Villanovan and similar, then Etruscan , then, then, then,….<br /><br />The same people Rahmsorf’s talks about having feasts, one see those “parties” (of cattle binging and later ritual burials) in Shulaveri, and them as they were at Merimde and herd the cattle south to Fayum and Kom near the lake in Egypt for the same type of festivities, than as the “Cattle Cult complex” in the middle pastoral period in middle sahara, then already in the Iberia Peninsula doing the same in Perdigões in the Xerez lowlands of Alentejo, them in Zambujal as bell beakers…<br /><br />Simple. What is the problem people?<br />Olympus Monshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08640679631703214884noreply@blogger.com