tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post4118226192172212306..comments2024-02-07T23:25:07.429-06:00Comments on Bell Beaker Blogger: Symbolism, Metaphors & Beaker Underworldbellbeakerbloggerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01848982163843593127noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-65878033930837920532018-12-25T18:16:59.065-06:002018-12-25T18:16:59.065-06:00I like the 'henbane' aspect too. A popular...I like the 'henbane' aspect too. A popular recreational drug: beer + henbane. I would amend on burial rituals that Beaker males and females appear to have been laid to rest facing in opposite directions. Buried with beakers, both sexes, so beer intoxication, it seems, was not purely a macho thing. (see Trumpington Meadows double beaker burial: the grave of a 16–18 year-old female and a 17–20 year-old male dating to c.2000-1950 BC.)tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784507333086725843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-40730774356538329212017-07-29T11:29:56.660-05:002017-07-29T11:29:56.660-05:00Yes, agreeing with the imagined solar boat mytholo...Yes, agreeing with the imagined solar boat mythology suggested here. The boat depicted on Clodgy Moor Boat Slate (beaker?) has groups of horizontal lines in its structure, zigzag patterns (Stitching of planks?) and banks of oars. These might be interpreted as shown abstracted on pots and lunulae. I interpret the lunula as worn in the hair, like a halo, hence a solar symbol rather than of the moon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-13018508863955321642017-04-27T09:31:33.317-05:002017-04-27T09:31:33.317-05:00Very, very fascinating. After reading your commen...Very, very fascinating. After reading your comment I found a paper by Peter Schrijver called "On henbane and early European narcotics" which discussed the etymology of 'bela' in Welsh and the insular languages. Unfortunately it's behind a paywall.<br />https://bill.celt.dias.ie/vol4/displayObject.php?TreeID=2744<br /><br />I've discussed the history of henbane (hanno wotan - herb of Apollo) and the wolf's bane in other blog posts. bellbeakerbloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01848982163843593127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-75514839930792309132017-04-23T21:32:34.962-05:002017-04-23T21:32:34.962-05:00Welsh supports your henbane theory. BELA means bot...Welsh supports your henbane theory. BELA means both wolf and henbane. The verb form BELA means to wrangle, to war or battle. Henbane is also called CRYS Y BRENIN: the shirt of the sovereign. The other two terms listed in A Dictionary of the Welsh Language, Explained in English (1832) also firmly support your theory.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-62332094282527042722016-01-30T22:43:21.925-06:002016-01-30T22:43:21.925-06:00I think we will eventually see some R1a in a few B...I think we will eventually see some R1a in a few Beakers. Eastern Scotland and Northeastern England, maybe some in the lower Rhine. <br /><br />Basically I think Beaker society promoted its own male members. So while Beakers mixed heavily with local people (marriages with local women), it wasn't charitable to stranger men.<br />bellbeakerbloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01848982163843593127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-45485375728648944992016-01-30T05:18:01.200-06:002016-01-30T05:18:01.200-06:00I meant that it looks apparent that BBC has shown ...I meant that it looks apparent that BBC has shown some R1b mutation that can be related with the Yamnaya, but there are also others which don't look related?.<br />If CWC did impact BBC then we should see more R1a? in a simple logic of course.Nirjhar007https://www.blogger.com/profile/12880827026479135118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-23476783192660951562016-01-28T15:08:21.643-06:002016-01-28T15:08:21.643-06:00I assume you mean the cultural similarities/differ...I assume you mean the cultural similarities/differences between the Steppe R1b and the Beaker R1bs?<br /><br />I have not as of yet, but I think those similarities will be deeper in time that many expect and this is complicated by the fact that Beaker was more strongly impacted by CWC than most of the other cultures that it intermingled with.<br /><br />As far as the y-chromosomal phylogeny, I let the people who are good at math do all that!bellbeakerbloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01848982163843593127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-22159789375189315332016-01-28T10:43:09.245-06:002016-01-28T10:43:09.245-06:00BBB,
Uh.. have you posted anything focusing on the...BBB,<br />Uh.. have you posted anything focusing on the difference/ relations between the R1b clades of the Steppe Cultures compared to the Bell Beakers published so far?.Nirjhar007https://www.blogger.com/profile/12880827026479135118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-62958041369906329402016-01-23T11:13:50.052-06:002016-01-23T11:13:50.052-06:00ThxThxbellbeakerbloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01848982163843593127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-41272019837960053342016-01-23T00:17:31.043-06:002016-01-23T00:17:31.043-06:00Interesting conjecture.Interesting conjecture.andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08172964121659914379noreply@blogger.com