tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post8703851303198048279..comments2024-02-07T23:25:07.429-06:00Comments on Bell Beaker Blogger: DNA - Globular Amphora Culturebellbeakerbloggerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01848982163843593127noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-16702145589511677572018-01-14T16:44:55.633-06:002018-01-14T16:44:55.633-06:00@ Rob "But back to pastoralism, this just con...@ Rob "But back to pastoralism, this just confirms that it all really began in the Carpathian-Danube region and spread to the steppe . There was then a migration back of steppians who by adoption and admixture had become pastoral themselves" I am interested to know more about this. Can you direct me to more information?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09964403762666068490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-18557679722281719772017-12-19T17:38:11.103-06:002017-12-19T17:38:11.103-06:00"I just think that they're implying that ..."I just think that they're implying that CWC and BB got their MNE from females. Nothing new imo"<br /><br />That's no entirely clear for Bell Beakers. Mathieson has the Anatolian Neolithic component in German Bell Beakers as female-biased but the WHG component is balanced.<br /><br />Globular Amphora was close to balanced on the WHG side actually to. Only Iberia_MN and Malak_Preslavets share that.Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07906194112935320590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-63624994958910108442017-11-29T16:55:09.822-06:002017-11-29T16:55:09.822-06:00The same samples are in the Mathieson et al. 2017 ...The same samples are in the Mathieson et al. 2017 preprint. All the males belong to I2.Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-36722639578848555752017-11-29T14:36:46.130-06:002017-11-29T14:36:46.130-06:00"It seems to imply that they have detected R1..."It seems to imply that they have detected R1 lineages in these individuals but without steppe ancestry."<br /><br />That is how I read it and it is consistent with prior data.andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08172964121659914379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-35081334653159451922017-11-28T18:23:21.528-06:002017-11-28T18:23:21.528-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.jvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12283765275775165180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-48895575831343937382017-11-25T09:44:10.873-06:002017-11-25T09:44:10.873-06:00I just think that they're implying that CWC an...I just think that they're implying that CWC and BB got their MNE from females. Nothing new imo <br /><br />But back to pastoralism, this just confirms that it all really began in the Carpathian-Danube region and spread to the steppe . There was then a migration back of steppians who by adoption and admixture had become pastoral themselves Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07166839601638241857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-24294554314988817232017-11-24T23:43:10.049-06:002017-11-24T23:43:10.049-06:00Maybe they're surprised by the degree of genet...Maybe they're surprised by the degree of genetic separation. Not quite sure.bellbeakerbloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01848982163843593127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-78051956016634802032017-11-24T17:27:55.865-06:002017-11-24T17:27:55.865-06:00regarding the paragraph...I think you are reading ...regarding the paragraph...I think you are reading to much into it. :) what they are saying is that if Mtdna unaltered and if hypothetical migration of males occurred, then a deeper similarity should be seen. Its just a sentence that shows their frustration for GAC being westerner and not steppe. no big deal. Olympus Monshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08640679631703214884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-39005222320859737722017-11-24T17:20:14.653-06:002017-11-24T17:20:14.653-06:00Tks BBB,
"Nobody" else is touching this ...Tks BBB,<br />"Nobody" else is touching this paper. Not even with a 10 foot pole. Delicious. <br />Olympus Monshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08640679631703214884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-63209567034347669322017-11-24T14:02:06.801-06:002017-11-24T14:02:06.801-06:00Same individuals, different samples and analysis.....Same individuals, different samples and analysis...<br /><br />http://polishgenes.blogspot.com.au/2017/05/globular-amphora-people-starkly.htmlDavidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-71823541440173655292017-11-24T13:56:57.232-06:002017-11-24T13:56:57.232-06:00I'm puzzled by the last quote. It seems to im...I'm puzzled by the last quote. It seems to imply that they have detected R1 lineages in these individuals but without steppe ancestry. Maybe I'm reading to far into this.bellbeakerbloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01848982163843593127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-55675219661870244892017-11-24T12:46:12.643-06:002017-11-24T12:46:12.643-06:00Their mobile economy isn't puzzling at all, if...Their mobile economy isn't puzzling at all, if one discards the nescient narratives of Gimbutaists who think everything came from the steppe Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07166839601638241857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6886680068187530519.post-69272937198484040812017-11-24T12:37:08.109-06:002017-11-24T12:37:08.109-06:00Cool paper
They're not "western" we...Cool paper <br />They're not "western" western. But from kuyavia <br />Curiously many of their lineages (I2a2) variety are similar to some seen in pre-Beaker Britain<br />Err so they're western hehe Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07166839601638241857noreply@blogger.com